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		<title>By: braine</title>
		<link>http://defectiveyeti.com/2009/09/24/ask-your-doctor-if-satiation-is-right-for-you/comment-page-2/#comment-36440</link>
		<dc:creator>braine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a problem with the mechanics here that some commenters (e.g. scott) have mentioned.  The &quot;fixed quantity&quot; clause sets up logical problems related to changes in caloric needs due to activity level or certain conditions (pregnancy, aging, loss of mobility from accident or disease, etc).  

For instance.  Say you take your pill with its 2000 calorie/day dose.  But you use your extra time not spent shopping/cooking to train for a marathon, sending yourself into calorie deficit pretty quickly.  Apparently you can offset that deficit with food (because you can still eat), although there is no mechanism for alerting you to the calorie deficit, because the pill has abolished hunger.  You could exercise yourself to death, conceivably.  Unless the user can feel weakness from lack of caloric energy. Or loses so much weight that it&#039;s apparent that food is required to offset the deficit.  The fixed-calorie clause thus means either a post-pill cessation of ALL non-metabolic activity or an automatic descent into calorie deficit that must be offset with food in order to maintain health, which means you&#039;ve still got to eat but it&#039;s no longer fun (as scott commented, &quot;it&#039;s a trap!&quot;). 

Similarly, it&#039;s apparently not quite right to say that &quot;your weight would depend entirely on your activity level.&quot;  That&#039;s focused on dieters.  It seems from the premise that you could engage in only normal daily activities and gain no weight, or you could conceivably have an eating disorder that causes you to binge without hunger or physical satisfaction, even post-pill, which would result in weight gain. In fact, any eating -- even your six months -- would result in weight gain, since you&#039;re going above the ideal metabolic calorie dose the pill delivers.  

I think the thought exercise allows a cleaner decision if you tweak your answer to commenter brittney to say &quot;It produces the optimal quality of calories for your height / sex / body type, and adjusts to your changing activity levels and metabolic needs.&quot;  And remove the part about weight being dependent on activity level. Such a change may also accidentally remove the ability of the user to gain weight through eating, but I think that too makes more sense if the question is strictly &quot;would you eat if you didn&#039;t have to.&quot;

PS I hate you for hijacking my brain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a problem with the mechanics here that some commenters (e.g. scott) have mentioned.  The &#8220;fixed quantity&#8221; clause sets up logical problems related to changes in caloric needs due to activity level or certain conditions (pregnancy, aging, loss of mobility from accident or disease, etc).  </p>
<p>For instance.  Say you take your pill with its 2000 calorie/day dose.  But you use your extra time not spent shopping/cooking to train for a marathon, sending yourself into calorie deficit pretty quickly.  Apparently you can offset that deficit with food (because you can still eat), although there is no mechanism for alerting you to the calorie deficit, because the pill has abolished hunger.  You could exercise yourself to death, conceivably.  Unless the user can feel weakness from lack of caloric energy. Or loses so much weight that it&#8217;s apparent that food is required to offset the deficit.  The fixed-calorie clause thus means either a post-pill cessation of ALL non-metabolic activity or an automatic descent into calorie deficit that must be offset with food in order to maintain health, which means you&#8217;ve still got to eat but it&#8217;s no longer fun (as scott commented, &#8220;it&#8217;s a trap!&#8221;). </p>
<p>Similarly, it&#8217;s apparently not quite right to say that &#8220;your weight would depend entirely on your activity level.&#8221;  That&#8217;s focused on dieters.  It seems from the premise that you could engage in only normal daily activities and gain no weight, or you could conceivably have an eating disorder that causes you to binge without hunger or physical satisfaction, even post-pill, which would result in weight gain. In fact, any eating &#8212; even your six months &#8212; would result in weight gain, since you&#8217;re going above the ideal metabolic calorie dose the pill delivers.  </p>
<p>I think the thought exercise allows a cleaner decision if you tweak your answer to commenter brittney to say &#8220;It produces the optimal quality of calories for your height / sex / body type, and adjusts to your changing activity levels and metabolic needs.&#8221;  And remove the part about weight being dependent on activity level. Such a change may also accidentally remove the ability of the user to gain weight through eating, but I think that too makes more sense if the question is strictly &#8220;would you eat if you didn&#8217;t have to.&#8221;</p>
<p>PS I hate you for hijacking my brain.</p>
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		<title>By: Lung the Younger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lung the Younger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It took about a millisecond for me to realise that I would not take the pill. 
One reason is obviously the enjoyment of food but there are also have a couple of philosophical reasons for this rejection.

Firstly, we were given five senses with which to experience the world around - sensations that can be both agreeable and disagreeable. Just five, precious few when you think about it. It seems a little ungrateful and churlish to neuter one of these senses in the name of mere convenience. A bit like ripping up a time-consuming garden in order to lay an ugly grey concrete patio which needs no tending. 

Secondly, so many technological devices are invented to save us the labour of everyday tasks. But hidden inside these very tasks is the rich texture of life itself and if we keep on eliminating them we will end up like the humanoids in the movie Wall-E. Eating is certainly a hassle, as is walking, having children and getting to know people. Not surprisingly Kurt Vonnegut puts it so much better than I ever could:

http://www.designfax.net/archives/0899/899trl_3.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took about a millisecond for me to realise that I would not take the pill.<br />
One reason is obviously the enjoyment of food but there are also have a couple of philosophical reasons for this rejection.</p>
<p>Firstly, we were given five senses with which to experience the world around &#8211; sensations that can be both agreeable and disagreeable. Just five, precious few when you think about it. It seems a little ungrateful and churlish to neuter one of these senses in the name of mere convenience. A bit like ripping up a time-consuming garden in order to lay an ugly grey concrete patio which needs no tending. </p>
<p>Secondly, so many technological devices are invented to save us the labour of everyday tasks. But hidden inside these very tasks is the rich texture of life itself and if we keep on eliminating them we will end up like the humanoids in the movie Wall-E. Eating is certainly a hassle, as is walking, having children and getting to know people. Not surprisingly Kurt Vonnegut puts it so much better than I ever could:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.designfax.net/archives/0899/899trl_3.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.designfax.net/archives/0899/899trl_3.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: braine</title>
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		<dc:creator>braine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s cute that you think anyone would have a choice whether or not to take such a pill.  To add a little to what commenter &quot;elias&quot; said, the spiral toward a world where everyone has taken the pill would be pushed along extremely quickly, as government and private programs that provide food (food stamps, food pantries, prisons, school lunches, etc.) would instantaneously offer the pill and either eliminate or reduce the quality/availability of food choices so as to make the pill essentially mandatory.  It&#039;s likely that private employers, sensing an opportunity to cut costs, would endorse the pill wholeheartedly and reduce compensation across the board by about 10% (the amount of their salaries that most Americans spend on food), again making the pill a non-choice for many.  In addition, taxpayers would probably demand that the government stop subsidizing unnecessary food production, and the  phasing out of farm subsidies and consequent rise in cost of food would seal the deal. 

Everyone who said &quot;no,&quot; please change your answer to &quot;yes, I would be forced to.&quot;

FORTUNATELY for our freedom to speculate, this pill has already been developed, and the guy who invented it is in a padded cell next to the guy who invented the car that runs on seawater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s cute that you think anyone would have a choice whether or not to take such a pill.  To add a little to what commenter &#8220;elias&#8221; said, the spiral toward a world where everyone has taken the pill would be pushed along extremely quickly, as government and private programs that provide food (food stamps, food pantries, prisons, school lunches, etc.) would instantaneously offer the pill and either eliminate or reduce the quality/availability of food choices so as to make the pill essentially mandatory.  It&#8217;s likely that private employers, sensing an opportunity to cut costs, would endorse the pill wholeheartedly and reduce compensation across the board by about 10% (the amount of their salaries that most Americans spend on food), again making the pill a non-choice for many.  In addition, taxpayers would probably demand that the government stop subsidizing unnecessary food production, and the  phasing out of farm subsidies and consequent rise in cost of food would seal the deal. </p>
<p>Everyone who said &#8220;no,&#8221; please change your answer to &#8220;yes, I would be forced to.&#8221;</p>
<p>FORTUNATELY for our freedom to speculate, this pill has already been developed, and the guy who invented it is in a padded cell next to the guy who invented the car that runs on seawater.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good lord no.
If you really want to add back those few hours a day you spend eating, cooking, food-shopping... there are proven ways to do it.  You could survive on simple nutritional supplements that require no cooking or clean up.  It would still cost money... but imagining that this pill would be free is silly.  Pharma would price it at about the same cost you spend on food each month.  Just because they could.

Years ago a researcher found that by sleeping 15 minutes every 2 hours, he could satisfy all his need for sleep while cutting his total amount of sleep time in half.  Supposedly this technique was pioneered by some Leonardo Da Vinci type.  He found that he was totally bored with all the extra time he had.  He was no Leonardo Da Vinci!  So he gave it up, preferring to live a more &quot;natural&quot; lifestyle.  I&#039;m sure many of you (particularly the parents) really would benefit from all the &quot;extra time&quot; in your life.  But most of us would fill it up with reading blogs, or doing something else ultimately less fulfilling than preparing and eating a good meal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good lord no.<br />
If you really want to add back those few hours a day you spend eating, cooking, food-shopping&#8230; there are proven ways to do it.  You could survive on simple nutritional supplements that require no cooking or clean up.  It would still cost money&#8230; but imagining that this pill would be free is silly.  Pharma would price it at about the same cost you spend on food each month.  Just because they could.</p>
<p>Years ago a researcher found that by sleeping 15 minutes every 2 hours, he could satisfy all his need for sleep while cutting his total amount of sleep time in half.  Supposedly this technique was pioneered by some Leonardo Da Vinci type.  He found that he was totally bored with all the extra time he had.  He was no Leonardo Da Vinci!  So he gave it up, preferring to live a more &#8220;natural&#8221; lifestyle.  I&#8217;m sure many of you (particularly the parents) really would benefit from all the &#8220;extra time&#8221; in your life.  But most of us would fill it up with reading blogs, or doing something else ultimately less fulfilling than preparing and eating a good meal.</p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 21:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like 3. One for each of my kids who apparently three meals a day. It&#039;s exhausting. Perhaps they could wear off my the time they reach adulthood so they can make their own decision?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like 3. One for each of my kids who apparently three meals a day. It&#8217;s exhausting. Perhaps they could wear off my the time they reach adulthood so they can make their own decision?</p>
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		<title>By: Winston Mars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winston Mars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 04:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would purchase one these pills to keep in my bomb shelter. That way there&#039;s more room for guns, ammo and gasoline, and I don&#039;t end up eating dog food out of the can like Mad Max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would purchase one these pills to keep in my bomb shelter. That way there&#8217;s more room for guns, ammo and gasoline, and I don&#8217;t end up eating dog food out of the can like Mad Max</p>
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		<title>By: kittens not kids</title>
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		<dc:creator>kittens not kids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d take it. I&#039;m a terribly picky eater, and have lately lost my taste for some of those few things i DID like. food for me is a tedious challenge - what i like is bad for me, everything else is unpleasant texturally or taste-wise. I&#039;d be pretty happy to take a pill for sustenance. i&#039;d miss out on diet coke, but then - i&#039;m sure that delightful burning sensation as diet coke meets the back of my throat would still happen. so - no real loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d take it. I&#8217;m a terribly picky eater, and have lately lost my taste for some of those few things i DID like. food for me is a tedious challenge &#8211; what i like is bad for me, everything else is unpleasant texturally or taste-wise. I&#8217;d be pretty happy to take a pill for sustenance. i&#8217;d miss out on diet coke, but then &#8211; i&#8217;m sure that delightful burning sensation as diet coke meets the back of my throat would still happen. so &#8211; no real loss.</p>
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		<title>By: zodak</title>
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		<dc:creator>zodak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omg, yes. eating is such an annoying chore. i&#039;m someone who forgets to eat (yes low bmi) &amp; although i love candy &amp; greasy things, i love not cooking &amp; not eating. it just isn&#039;t as important to me as some people. was my dinner delicious? yes. am i going to orgasm over it? no.

PS: Eric Berlin, I&#039;m sorry you had so much trouble when you were younger, i realized early on that by organizing &amp; leading the socializing I could steer others away from the bar scene.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg, yes. eating is such an annoying chore. i&#8217;m someone who forgets to eat (yes low bmi) &amp; although i love candy &amp; greasy things, i love not cooking &amp; not eating. it just isn&#8217;t as important to me as some people. was my dinner delicious? yes. am i going to orgasm over it? no.</p>
<p>PS: Eric Berlin, I&#8217;m sorry you had so much trouble when you were younger, i realized early on that by organizing &amp; leading the socializing I could steer others away from the bar scene.</p>
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		<title>By: Tobeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tobeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are cutting out one of your few senses, one of the few ways you can interact and experience the world so you can what? save some money? No way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are cutting out one of your few senses, one of the few ways you can interact and experience the world so you can what? save some money? No way!</p>
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		<title>By: lilikindsli</title>
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		<dc:creator>lilikindsli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wEBoDT I want to say - thank you for this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wEBoDT I want to say &#8211; thank you for this!</p>
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