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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://defectiveyeti.com/2010/05/24/lost-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-37800</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post more posts.</description>
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		<title>By: ZipWeasel</title>
		<link>http://defectiveyeti.com/2010/05/24/lost-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-37712</link>
		<dc:creator>ZipWeasel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 23:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people crashed on an island.

For seven years, we were given enigmatic mysteries to solve, great quests to undertake, and a grand sense of overarching purpose and importance to everything.

Turns out none of it was ever explained or resolved at all.

But hey -- they all met up in the afterlife later!
And that&#039;s all that matters -- emotional closure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people crashed on an island.</p>
<p>For seven years, we were given enigmatic mysteries to solve, great quests to undertake, and a grand sense of overarching purpose and importance to everything.</p>
<p>Turns out none of it was ever explained or resolved at all.</p>
<p>But hey &#8212; they all met up in the afterlife later!<br />
And that&#8217;s all that matters &#8212; emotional closure!</p>
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		<title>By: jaap</title>
		<link>http://defectiveyeti.com/2010/05/24/lost-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-37672</link>
		<dc:creator>jaap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... to flaunt the gentlemen agreements that govern the mystery genre.&quot;

Don&#039;t you mean &quot;flout&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; to flaunt the gentlemen agreements that govern the mystery genre.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you mean &#8220;flout&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: LOST finale &#171; wongaBlog</title>
		<link>http://defectiveyeti.com/2010/05/24/lost-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-37654</link>
		<dc:creator>LOST finale &#171; wongaBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Baldwin expressed it nicely: it was emotionally satisfying, but not intellectually satisfying. The characters all had decent, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Baldwin expressed it nicely: it was emotionally satisfying, but not intellectually satisfying. The characters all had decent, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Ann</title>
		<link>http://defectiveyeti.com/2010/05/24/lost-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-37592</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 15:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Charlie’s heroine-fueled fever dreams&quot;

While I know you intended &quot;heroin-fueled&quot;, the &quot;heroine-fueled&quot; alternative is quite enticing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Charlie’s heroine-fueled fever dreams&#8221;</p>
<p>While I know you intended &#8220;heroin-fueled&#8221;, the &#8220;heroine-fueled&#8221; alternative is quite enticing!</p>
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		<title>By: Marion</title>
		<link>http://defectiveyeti.com/2010/05/24/lost-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-37581</link>
		<dc:creator>Marion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 16:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m wondering if you feel any differently about it after having a few days to live with it.  My initial reaction was complete almost cathartic relief during parts of the finale (Juliet/James at the vending machine) followed by WTF? at the end.  However, the more I thought about the ending, the more right it seemed despite the many inconsistencies.  I don&#039;t think you can fault the writers for not adhering to the rules of the mystery genre when the storytelling was so improvisatory in nature (despite a fixed end date and scenario). Clearly a lot happened that wasn&#039;t expected -- Mr Eko&#039;s departure, chemistry between particular characters, Hugo&#039;s emergence as the emotional center, etc. It was ALWAYS a mishmash and they never solved any mysteries or were consistent about anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering if you feel any differently about it after having a few days to live with it.  My initial reaction was complete almost cathartic relief during parts of the finale (Juliet/James at the vending machine) followed by WTF? at the end.  However, the more I thought about the ending, the more right it seemed despite the many inconsistencies.  I don&#8217;t think you can fault the writers for not adhering to the rules of the mystery genre when the storytelling was so improvisatory in nature (despite a fixed end date and scenario). Clearly a lot happened that wasn&#8217;t expected &#8212; Mr Eko&#8217;s departure, chemistry between particular characters, Hugo&#8217;s emergence as the emotional center, etc. It was ALWAYS a mishmash and they never solved any mysteries or were consistent about anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://defectiveyeti.com/2010/05/24/lost-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-37576</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 07:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So ... the whole heaven/purgatory/afterlife bit actually had nothing to do with the story.

It was just a &quot;of course everyone meets up with all their friends again in heaven&quot; - a blatant curtain call / soppy padding. To me they might as well have cut out all of the sideways scenes and just shown one scene after Jack died of him meeting them all in heaven (just like he did).

I don&#039;t know whether to consider the sideways sections of the episodes Red Herrings or mere padding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So &#8230; the whole heaven/purgatory/afterlife bit actually had nothing to do with the story.</p>
<p>It was just a &#8220;of course everyone meets up with all their friends again in heaven&#8221; &#8211; a blatant curtain call / soppy padding. To me they might as well have cut out all of the sideways scenes and just shown one scene after Jack died of him meeting them all in heaven (just like he did).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether to consider the sideways sections of the episodes Red Herrings or mere padding.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Cooley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Cooley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 19:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I feel the final episode closed off the main thread quite nicely. Not everything was answered, but did you *really* want that? Someone mentioned the Matrix, and that&#039;s a good cautionary tale about getting what you want. 

The show was a set of character studies, not a mystery or an adventure show. The flashbacks, the &quot;future&quot;backs, the &quot;side&quot;backs, all showed the characters under a variety of different conditions. There were classic themes of relationships, good vs evil (or selflessness vs selfishness, which is the same thing), faith vs reason. 

The finale took the theme of relationships outside of the context of the show, and I believe it was as much about the viewer&#039;s relationship with a series as much as about the cast/crew. Given how much people got worked up over BStarG and The Sopranos&#039; finales, JJ Abrams&#039; was more or less telling us that the series is over, and it&#039;s time to let go. Given the hype, he managed to both give a satisfying conclusion to the &quot;mundane&quot; story that had built up over time, as well as tell us that they weren&#039;t going to answer every little question, and that while we could spend as much time as we wished arguing about whether or not it was a good series and/or finale, that it was over and we were just going to have to get used to that idea. 

Also, I was thankful that JJ didn&#039;t make a cameo (as Ron Moore so foolishly did in BStarG&#039;s finale) in the last episodes. 

It was a television series. A very good but flawed long term story, as all television series are. Nature of the beast and all that. It was still a great ride, and certainly a better conclusion, intellectual or emotional, than most television series provide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I feel the final episode closed off the main thread quite nicely. Not everything was answered, but did you *really* want that? Someone mentioned the Matrix, and that&#8217;s a good cautionary tale about getting what you want. </p>
<p>The show was a set of character studies, not a mystery or an adventure show. The flashbacks, the &#8220;future&#8221;backs, the &#8220;side&#8221;backs, all showed the characters under a variety of different conditions. There were classic themes of relationships, good vs evil (or selflessness vs selfishness, which is the same thing), faith vs reason. </p>
<p>The finale took the theme of relationships outside of the context of the show, and I believe it was as much about the viewer&#8217;s relationship with a series as much as about the cast/crew. Given how much people got worked up over BStarG and The Sopranos&#8217; finales, JJ Abrams&#8217; was more or less telling us that the series is over, and it&#8217;s time to let go. Given the hype, he managed to both give a satisfying conclusion to the &#8220;mundane&#8221; story that had built up over time, as well as tell us that they weren&#8217;t going to answer every little question, and that while we could spend as much time as we wished arguing about whether or not it was a good series and/or finale, that it was over and we were just going to have to get used to that idea. </p>
<p>Also, I was thankful that JJ didn&#8217;t make a cameo (as Ron Moore so foolishly did in BStarG&#8217;s finale) in the last episodes. </p>
<p>It was a television series. A very good but flawed long term story, as all television series are. Nature of the beast and all that. It was still a great ride, and certainly a better conclusion, intellectual or emotional, than most television series provide.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 16:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Alan Graham&#039;s comments.  My wife and I had the same experience as did you and yours.  

Matt, I think one of your commentators hit the nail on the head in terms of your best point:  the ending provided an emotional albeit not intellectual satisfaction...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Alan Graham&#8217;s comments.  My wife and I had the same experience as did you and yours.  </p>
<p>Matt, I think one of your commentators hit the nail on the head in terms of your best point:  the ending provided an emotional albeit not intellectual satisfaction&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nitsudima</title>
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		<dc:creator>nitsudima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 15:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with Matthew&#039;s position that the writers introduced too much at the very end to explain what had been happening all along.  For instance, the light in the cave was simply the source of the electromagnetism that has been in the show all along; I don&#039;t feel it was a last-chapter killer added to wrap-up a murder mystery.  Not all of my questions were answered, and I would like to know a little more about the source of the light (and who did all the hieroglyphics in the cave and temple?), but in some fiction (certainly the fantasy genre) you just don&#039;t get explanations for everything.

But I do absolutely agree that, even if we were left intellectually wanting a bit at the end, it was very emotionally satisfying.  To me that was the most important part of it.  I didn&#039;t watch Lost because it was intellectually stimulating – it was a fantasy show!  (Sci-fi, esp. Star Trek, typically does it much better for me in the intellectual sense.)  But the depths and motivations of the characters in Lost had mostly been well-developed over the years, and I cared about what happened to them.

Plus, for the most part not only was the writing and production of the show really good throughout its run (with some exceptions to the writing portion here and there), but from the first episode they managed to cast really talented actors in most of the roles.  The cast was able to pull off the depth and complexity that the writers demanded, and the final episode was fantastic in that regard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with Matthew&#8217;s position that the writers introduced too much at the very end to explain what had been happening all along.  For instance, the light in the cave was simply the source of the electromagnetism that has been in the show all along; I don&#8217;t feel it was a last-chapter killer added to wrap-up a murder mystery.  Not all of my questions were answered, and I would like to know a little more about the source of the light (and who did all the hieroglyphics in the cave and temple?), but in some fiction (certainly the fantasy genre) you just don&#8217;t get explanations for everything.</p>
<p>But I do absolutely agree that, even if we were left intellectually wanting a bit at the end, it was very emotionally satisfying.  To me that was the most important part of it.  I didn&#8217;t watch Lost because it was intellectually stimulating – it was a fantasy show!  (Sci-fi, esp. Star Trek, typically does it much better for me in the intellectual sense.)  But the depths and motivations of the characters in Lost had mostly been well-developed over the years, and I cared about what happened to them.</p>
<p>Plus, for the most part not only was the writing and production of the show really good throughout its run (with some exceptions to the writing portion here and there), but from the first episode they managed to cast really talented actors in most of the roles.  The cast was able to pull off the depth and complexity that the writers demanded, and the final episode was fantastic in that regard.</p>
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